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Post by kyuuichii on 06/08/14, 03:16 am

I just curious on how you play Japanese Otome Game.  Ladida 

If you fluent in Japanese, there is no question. But, many of us (including me) not 100% know Japanese language.

First, are you play them with translation? Playing every routes while reading some translation on web or playing and finish them then read the translation.

Second, as long as you hear all the character talking you didn't bother about translation and use your hearing comprehension.

Third, didn't play any game, just read other reviews to know about the game.

Fourth, waiting for English patch or US localization. So, basically you didn't play Japanese Otome Game.

And, as for me, I was mixing the first and second. I will get the game, playing it with all my Japanese language knowledge, my kanji knowledge and I will depend on my hearing ability to know the meaning till finish at last one routes. After finishing the game, I will surfing reviews blog and read them as a proof for my knowledge of the game I'd played.

Ah, because for now I only have PSP games, I usually read other review for other console Otome Game (like NDS, and PC) I have PSVita, but still didn't have any Otome Game on it because my low allowance and still prioritizing PSP games hehe

Nee, how about you? Please tell me your way to play Japanese Otome Game  :p 
Feel free to include your own way that not listed here  cat

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Post by futurakaiser on 07/08/14, 07:27 pm

Well, I used to rely often on my listening comprehension and tried to understand what was going through reviews. Until I finished learning the hiragana I was seriously just trying to understand what was going on through hearing haha. It was that bad to the level where you could call that I was playing blindly.

After building up my knowledge on the Hiragana and Katakana, I started picking up kanji which often appeared in the games, and at the same time learning some new kanji as well. Honestly, sometimes review can be wrong once in a while too so try not to believe them to much. But [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] & [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are definitely very detailed ones to go to and their accuracy is quite high.

Along the way, I also used a phone app called JED, which is a japanese dictionary you could download to your phone to search up kanji that you don't know. It's usable offline, so you can use it anywhere. I still tend to use it when I'm playing otome games outside, especially the new ones where there's no guide to guide me along and some kanji which I still don't recognize.

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Post by kyuuichii on 07/08/14, 10:46 pm

Hee... I also do like you do when I'm just starting my Japanese. I also rely on dictionary (but the real book and it's really heavy >_<wink and JWPce on my PC to look up kanji's. 

Wah, I'm read their blog too >w< and Hinanoさん blog (breadmasterlee). I always compare as many as I can find a blog about game I play and usually they make mistake on translation. I don't want to judge them, I only happy to read them and know which one is right and had some mistake. 

I'd visited your blog... I'm envious of you... I want to buy Vita game TwT. I'm still spending to PSP game and saving little by little... hehe I want SSL so bad >_<;

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Post by LeeYa on 08/08/14, 01:23 pm

hoho Laughing dududu  I'm a third and fourth..I'm just played once but just halfway since its really annoyed me when I can't understand what happen in the game mou~ ..That why I just read a review of any japanese otome game  that I'm interested..and waiting for English patch if possible.. Ehehe~ 
kyuuichii wrote:ah, because for now I only have PSP games, I usually read other review for other console Otome Game (like NDS, and PC)
hehe..I'm just another side Perv smile ..I only have a PC games so I also read any review for other console otome game especially Amnesia Crying 
futurakaiser wrote:Honestly, sometimes review can be wrong once in a while too so try not to believe them to much
eh shocked ..haha..Now I know that there some review can be wrong.. Ehehe~ haha..previously I believe on it 100%..well..I'm not play it after all so I think I shouldn't too much to complain Bert sweating ..thanks for information!I'll check it out later.. Sparkle  :D

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Post by kyuuichii on 08/08/14, 03:29 pm

haha... I have a PC but haven't thought to play any Otome Game here~ Because I can't play the game while laying on bed if using a PC >_<;

Speaking of Amnesia, I also fall in love with the game. Just look to my faction and you will know that I love Toma :D I'm glad that I can understand almost all the game stories. Today just finished Suspense route Toma on Amnesia Crowd hehe
I suggest you to read koiiro and yumemirusekai reviews for Amnesia, it's very detailed and easy to understand :D

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Post by LeeYa on 09/08/14, 08:11 pm

hohohoho!
kyuuichii wrote: I can't play the game while laying on bed if using a PC >_<;
I really know how its feel..hahaha..I already tried to play while lie prone and my chest and neck become hurt..haha  Perv smile 

kyuuichii wrote:I suggest you to read koiiro and yumemirusekai reviews for Amnesia
that's from link above right ? Perv smile hehe..that's great Just as planned !I'll check it!I not realise that I always read review about Brother Conflict game and novel at koiiro ..ehehe :p ..eh.. shocked I haven't read about suspense route for Amnesia Crowd yet.. but I don't know they have that route..huhu..gonna check this now.. Crying

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Post by kyuuichii on 10/08/14, 01:42 am

@Leeya
yeah, it is my biggest problem and my first number one reason to not palying Otome Game on PC >_<;

Yeah, many reviews blog out there, if you want to recommended me something, please tell me the good blog reviews.

For Amnesia Crowd, wait I'll check my PSP first, (because last night I'm playing it, so the game still there) hm... on game select menu, you will find, suspense, working, love and etc. section. Each guy have all the section and for now I'm already finished Toma suspense (both good and bad ending, bad ending cg really wuaaah if you want I will insert the cg later) and Toma working section. Working section is about mini game and all character sprite is in chibi sprites >w< I think each character mini game is different (on Toma, you will have to calculating the bill's costumer, just do Math) I haven't go to love section, maybe today? and in etc. section you will find Orion and Trump section. In Orion it's a quiz game to test your knowledge about Amnesia game (I doubt my knowledge here Crying) Trump, just like the name, you can play cards mini game like poker and black jack with the guy you want.

Sorry, my post become this long sad
nee, Leeyaさん maybe I should make Amnesia Coward reviews for you? of course after I finishing all the routes or you want specific route?haha if you don't mind~

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Post by Kouryuu on 11/08/14, 06:26 am

I just use emulators, patches, and translations programs..it is rough. But better then nothing. XD

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Post by The_Cat_Lady on 11/08/14, 12:11 pm

Kouryuu wrote:I just use emulators, patches, and translations programs..it is rough. But better then nothing. XD
Indeed, it's far better than nothing. Plus, you get used to it after a while ('cause "engrish" is really hard to comprehend at first xD) and reviews on the net (you know - the huge ones,that almost never leave a conversation in the game unmentioned) help a lot.

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Post by Kouryuu on 11/08/14, 06:40 pm

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Kouryuu wrote:I just use emulators, patches, and translations programs..it is rough. But better then nothing. XD
Indeed, it's far better than nothing. Plus, you get used to it after a while ('cause "engrish" is really hard to comprehend at first xD) and reviews on the net (you know - the huge ones,that almost never leave a conversation in the game unmentioned) help a lot.
Yeah. The main issue for me playing japanese translated games with programs is setting the game up/the menu and find good english translated walkthroughs.

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Post by kyuuichii on 11/08/14, 10:27 pm

@Kouryuu
It's okay, and I think it's not rough, eh. When you have a will to play Otome Games and successfully playing them (with any method) it's already amazing. I mean, many people who has a will but to afraid or lazy to do it, and at the end they give up.

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nee, so you also using emulator and patch?
Ah, by the way Cat Ladyさん, I thought you on vacation (I saw your signature a few days ago and if I'm not mistaken it say you will be in vacation till this November). But, I'm glad to see you around again ^u^)/

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Post by Kouryuu on 11/08/14, 10:31 pm

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Thanks. I also find issues with menus/settings too in games that are using those translator options. -sighs- Makes it playing those game a headache..though it could be worth it.

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Post by The_Cat_Lady on 11/08/14, 11:45 pm

kyuuichii wrote:@The_Cat_Lady
nee, so you also using emulator and patch?
Ah, by the way Cat Ladyさん, I thought you on vacation (I saw your signature a few days ago and if I'm not mistaken it say you will be in vacation till this November). But, I'm glad to see you around again ^u^)/
Yep - mainly hooking translation programs to the games.
Oh, the vacation was until 11 August actually,but I had to cut it short - in the end without an internet connection I feel like I have a missing limb xD

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Post by kyuuichii on 12/08/14, 12:58 am

@Kouryuu
ganbatte Kouryuuさん :D  You're right, it worth especially if the story and character really good.

@The_Cat_Lady
hee~ ganbatte too~ Oh, I'm also hopeless without Internet connection sad

nee, both of you, can I ask? When you using translator to play game, are the translation work fine or good? I'm also curious, will the translator program translate each words or all of the sentences?

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Post by Kouryuu on 12/08/14, 01:22 am

Well. Beside the techo problems (on my end - I am still having trouble setting it up), I heard it was good. Basically programs like ITH uses a combination. They use stuff like Translation Aggregator to translate text that they extra. Some grammar issues...but nothing is perfect. I don't think they can translate menus/image based text however...T^T

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Post by kyuuichii on 12/08/14, 01:35 am

What is techo problems?
Despite the grammar issues, with the translator, you can understand the game? If yes, wow, that translator really something >w<)/
But, I wonder why it can't translate menu's...

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Post by Kouryuu on 12/08/14, 01:37 am

Yes it is a bit scrambled up and all, but fine if you read it carefully. As for techno problems..mine is setting it up for myself. XD And the menu are probably image based. Not text based. That is the problem. ^)^;

I also think their are issues with stuff like maps and stuff. >)>; One reason I wish an English patch for Queen of Darkness is released..

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Post by kyuuichii on 12/08/14, 02:03 am

Ooh.. Then it's really a good program. I have interest to this program now. But, as you said, it's hard to setting the program itself, nee?
I see, maybe the map also non-text based, it's also an image. So, the program cannot translate it.

Queen of Darkness? I've visit it threads, prequel of Second Reproduction, right? English patch... Eh, you cannot play it even with a translator program?

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Post by Kouryuu on 12/08/14, 02:05 am

kyuuichii wrote:Ooh.. Then it's really a good program. I have interest to this program now. But, as you said, it's hard to setting the program itself, nee?
I see, maybe the map also non-text based, it's also an image. So, the program cannot translate it.

Queen of Darkness? I've visit it threads, prequel of Second Reproduction, right? English patch... Eh, you cannot play it even with a translator program?

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Well, I am not best at techno savy stuff. So yeah. -shrugs-
Yes it is the prequel of Second Reproduction.
Queen of Darkness is an RPG combined with Otome. I don't think the rpg battle elements will get translated with the translator...Hence the issue. That is why I want a English patch.


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Oh... I see... I'm hope soon the translation project about Queen of Darkness will be announced  Hello

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Post by LeeYa on 13/08/14, 12:33 am

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hoho..thats why I want PSP so badly.. Perv smile 
ohhh..so thats how a game work...you really make me play this game so badly Crying ..I want to see a CG then..may I? Sparkle 
hoho..its alright Ehehe~ ..thank you for posting this..I'm really appreciate this Love it! ..honto?hehe.. I want to,if you not trouble with it..

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Post by kyuuichii on 13/08/14, 01:58 am

@LeeYa
I will give the CG's~ Wait a day or two to upload them, okay? I forgot, which character CG you want? or all of them? Also which game CG? Amnesia; Amnesia Later or Amnesia Crowd (as, I said I'm only finished Toma on Crowd, but I don't mind to do other routes, just wait a bit nee)
About review, Do you want all of them or only certain character route? if yes, which routes? Oh, and which game reviews? Only Crowd?
Sorry, for asking many question, I just want to clear it up :D

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Post by LeeYa on 13/08/14, 03:13 am

@kyuuichii
I think all CGs of Ukyo from all games..and for a review ..I think also all route of Ukyo from all games(if possible Bert sweating )..I'm the one who should apologize to you..I'm sorry for making you trouble..but Thank you sooooo mucchh Sparkle  :D !I really appreciate it!!Thank you.. :D !I'll wait patiently so please don't hesitate to take how much time you want .. Ehehe~  cat 
btw..I wonder what the different between Amnesia,Amnesia;Later and Amnesia Crowd?A blogger has said a different but I'm not remember.. Bert sweating

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Post by kyuuichii on 13/08/14, 03:44 am

woot~ No problem. Okay, all of them is about Ukyou, right? On Amnesia, do you want all of his ending, including bad end? cause he have many bad end. Or only good and normal end? Right now I'll focus to play Ukyou on Crowd, I will write the reviews (or it will be nice to call it summaries?) later after finishing all his game route.

Amnesia is the original game. One year later, Amnesia Later launched as sequel. It contain fireworks event during August (when the heroine still has her amnesia) Even it's occur during her amnesia, this event never told in the first game. The second section of Amnesia Later is story after heroine remember all her memory (After Amnesia ending).
As for Amnesia Crowd, it's just like Amnesia Later Later (haha). It also contain story at August which also haven't told in the two game earlier. It's called suspense section. Just like the title, Suspense tell about each guy helping heroine when she in danger. We also play it as guy point of view. Then, it's After Story section
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which each guy have they wedding with heroine (I think, eh)

There also port for PSVita edition, but I don't think I will buy it.

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Post by LeeYa on 13/08/14, 08:31 pm

hoh!I forget he has many bad ending!it was 8,9,6..I can't remember..there's blog told me that(but its for Amnesia game/first game)..emm...I want all of his ending..is this fine?I always wonder how his bad ending occur.. Sparkle 
kyuuichii wrote:The second section of Amnesia Later is story after heroine remember all her memory (After Amnesia ending).
I'm definitely want to read that! Embarassed/ Kyaa! 
oh!so Amnesia game before Crowd one just have  working, love and etc. section?or Amnesia only have working and love section then Amnesia:Later has Working,love and etc. section?
Kyyyaaaaaaa~ Embarassed/ Kyaa! !!!!It has a___..kyaa!So it was from Amnesia:Crowd!I thought it's from Amnesia:Later..hohohooho!we also play as guy point of view..I wonder how is it.. Perv look 
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Its was me..hehehe Bert sweating

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